A post on the experiences with different security updates, now on Android 9 PIE.
2022-09-21
This seems to be the final S8 update almost 5½ years after release 2017-04-21! (Last checked 2024-11-10)
The official post on updates for the Samsung S8 (G950F) can be found here.
More generally
doc.samsungmobile.com/MODEL/XXX/doc.html
e.g.
doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-G950F/DBT/doc.html
to find XXX go to Settings, About Phone, Software Information, Take the last three chars in the Service Provider SW ver (this section also contains the MODEL)
I plan to write my experiences in this post, with the newest first, and updating the date
Regular S8 OTA Security Updates might have finally ended.
I believe the regular OTA security updates of the S8 is likely to have ended. It is not unexpected (nor unreasonable) though, as the latest was four years after the first update according to the link above (April 2017 to April 2021).
The official page does not say anything of it being the last one, so there might still be a (slim) chance of some singular update if a major security risk pops up that they decide to fix. (like they did with the 2022-08-18 and 2022-09-21)
2022-09-21, Surprise security update!!
I just found out that they a couple of months back had a September security fix too! Just one month after the GPS update – and still at same security level.
No immediately noticed changes, and I have stopped using the device, only pulled it out to do some tests 2023-02-03.
2022-08-18, Surprise GPS update!!
Out of the blue a GPS related update has been issued a few weeks ago, 16 months after last update – and still at same security level.
No immediately noticed changes, and I have stopped using the device, only pulled it out to do some test 2022-09-07.
2021-04-18, Quarterly security update, April.
This generic text does not offer much info, apart from the usual blah blah. Three months after last update, in line with promised quarterly.
No immediately noticed changes, and I have stopped using the device, only pulled it out to update, shortly after I discovered the update was offered Apr 16.
2021-02-03, Quarterly security update, January.
This generic text does not offer much info, apart from the usual blah blah. Three months after last update, in line with promised quarterly.
No immediately noticed changes, and I have stopped using the device, only pulled it out to update, shortly after I discovered the update was offered Jan 27.
2020-10-23, Unexpected security update, October.
This generic text does not offer much info, apart from the usual blah blah. But only the month after the quarterly. So most likely to do with the “updated security policy”
No immediately noticed changes, and I have stopped using the device, only pulled it out to update, shortly after I discovered the update was offered.
2020-09-21, Planned quarterly security update, September.
This generic text does not offer much info, apart from the usual blah blah.
No immediately noticed changes, and I have stopped using the device, only pulled it out to update, shortly after I discovered the update was offered.
2020-07-07, Unexpected security update, June.
This generic text does not offer much info, apart from the usual blah blah, though a bit on messaging and device care. But it is quite unexpected being a few days more than a months since last update, after being announced to go to quarterly updates. I guess some patch must be rather critical. Rather late for a June update if that is the case though?
No immediately noticed changes, and I have stopped using the device, only pulled it out to update, shortly after I accidentally discovered the update was offered.
2020-05-29, Unexpected security update, May.
This generic text does not offer much info, apart from the usual blah blah. But it is quite unexpected being a few days less than two months since last update, after being announced to go to quarterly updates. I guess some patch must be rather critical. Rather late for a May update if that is the case though?
No immediately noticed changes, and I have stopped using the device, only pulled it out to update, shortly after I accidentally discovered the update was offered.
2020-03-31, April quarterly security update, Very fast update.
This generic text does not offer much info, apart from the usual blah blah.
No immediately noticed changes, and I have stopped using the device, only pulled it out to update, a few days after the update was offered. Might not remember it next time… As expected with the date close to April first, it is down to quarterly updates. See e.g here
2020-03-16, March security update, The usual few weeks late.
This generic text does not offer much info, apart from the usual blah blah.
No immediately noticed changes, and I have stopped using the device, only pulled it out to update, a the day after the update was offered.
2020-02-18, February security update, The usual few weeks late.
This generic text does not offer much info, apart from the usual blah blah.
No immediately noticed changes.
2020-01-21, January security update, The usual few weeks late.
This generic text does not offer much info, apart from the usual blah blah.
No immediately noticed changes..
2019-12-19, December security update, The usual few weeks late.
This generic text does not offer much info, apart from the usual blah blah.
No immediately noticed changes. Nor after a month.
2019-12-05, November security update, Extremely late.
This generic text does not offer much info, apart from the usual blah blah.
No immediately noticed changes.. And a good weeks after either.
2019-10-21, October security update, a few weeks late as usual.
This generic text does not offer much info, apart from the usual blah blah.
No immediately noticed changes..
Less than a day after install I had a bug where the touch panel was unresponsive after a fingerprint login. After fiddling a bit with the other keys, it did a spontaneous soft boot.
This is a bug I have never seen on the S8-. So COULD be related to this patch, but could also be completely unrelated. Will report here if I see it again
2019-09-18, September security update, a few weeks late as usual.
This generic text does not offer much info, except some on camera, apart from the usual blah blah.
No noticed changes..
2019-09-05, August security update, Second iteration early Sepember.
This generic text does not offer much info, except some on camera, apart from the usual blah blah, some policy has been changed though.
No noticed changes. Except it again installed some new stuff (read: bloat) I have not identified yet.
2019-08-21, August security update, three weeks late as usual.
This generic text does not offer much info, apart from the usual blah blah.
No immediately noticed changes.
2019-07-02, July security update, very early, but with some policy changes.
This generic text does not offer much info, apart from the usual blah blah, some policy has been changed though.
No immediately noticed changes. Except it installed some new stuff (read: bloat) I have not identified yet.
2019-06-24, June security update, three weeks late as usual.
This generic text does not offer much info, just the usual blah blah.
No immediately noticed changes.
2019-05-24, OOOOPS six days later!!
This generic text does not offer much info, except some on camera and the usual blah blah.
No immediately noticed changes., keyboard still fucked!!
ADD: Changing the screen zoom and font size (temporarily) now brings the keyboard back functioning! (never tried that on the previous)
2019-05-18, May security update a few weeks late.
This generic text does not offer much info, except the usual blah blah.
The update fucked up the click-on keyboard!!!!
2019-04-30, A last minute April update about as late as can get.
This generic text does not offer much info, except stability on the camera, and the usual blah blah.
A few days in: No noticed changes. (Add: Same after a fortnight).
2019-03-29, A second unexpected March update a 11 days after.
This generic text does not offer much info, except something on the camera, just blah blah.
An unexpected 0.6GB update just came in….
2019-03-18, The March update came the usual about 2½ weeks late.
This generic text does not offer much info, just blah blah.
After a month on Pie, and a few days with the new update, it is qute clear that Pie on the S8- is substantially more power-hungry than Oreo.
2018-03-21: On Oreo the usual idle consumption over night was at a rate of 0.2-0.3%/h. On Pie it seems to be 0.4%/h. I had hoped this bug was fixed with first update.
2019-02-20, PIE is here with the February update.
Here are the text for it as it looked on Oreo:
Or with the new further uglified flattened look:
Apart from the uglified icons the home screen looks much it self at first glance
To my big surprise and joy Bixby stayed disabled, even after the update. I would have expected them to reenable all their junk. But kudos to Samsung for not doing that. 😀
Add: Well they did re-enable and start ONE, the “IMS Settings” or package “com.samsung.advp.imssettings” (related to VO-LTE it seems)
It did not even restart all the junk that I use Greenify and Android Assistant to keep down. So Google and/or Samsung certainly improved there. A pile was loaded on a simple boot on Oreo.
The Settings app looks much better with things less ugly flat, and now grouped. On the other hand all my icons on the home screen (except Greenify shortcut) now looks ugly!! It is Fine that they OFFER these new “Adaptive” icons, but why on earth destroy the nice transparent looks of those not supporting that? It is simply stupid 😯 😡 👿 They could have made it an Option “Uglify legacy icons”, they could even have it default on, but give me a choice!!
They seem to have found a designer so young (or just incompetent) that have never seen a real phone. Maybe the kid think it it is a C for Call? Why else replace the Phone hook icon with a bold C….
(And the Easter egg is, well, boring)
One nice feature added by Pie (I assume) is an ‘scroll down extent’ function to screen-dumps. It is not perfect, only moving a minor portion, and requiring multiple clicks, but it works, and is a lot easier in stitching stuff together manually (you can just hold it, but that leaves the scroll marker multiple times in the image…). There seem to be some odd limit around 33295 in height (tried to make dump of all apps incl system). Here the disabled (as usual, click to expand)
A few thing got new names, so my disable script was in need of minor modifications, see this
2019-01-18, The January update came the usual about 2½ weeks late.
This generic text does not offer much info, just blah blah.
No changes felt the first ½day. As usual Samsung themes re-enabled, other disabled stuff were nicely kept disabled.
2018-12-13, A new update just THREE days later, on December 1. level.
This generic text does not offer much info, just blah blah.
The kernel is stamped December 4., that is just four days after the previous one.
So this make it EVEN more odd, they rushed the other one out????
ADD 2018-12-18. After a few days, no felt difference. (charging still working)
2018-12-10, A SECOND November update – and in mid December
This generic text does not offer much info, just blah blah.
I have no idea what this brings over the previous one, the official link offers no details… Just the usual “The security of your device has been improved.”
I see no immediately visible changes.
But I guess it must be some really nasty bugs they patches, as they did not want to let it wait a week or two for the normal monthly update.
Or it could be seen on a more optimistic note as a hint that the December patch is going to be even later than usual, perhaps including the new UI as a preparation for the new OS
ADD After a day I noticed that the fast charging issues of the previous update seem to be gone – or I have just been lucky. I tried to attach and detach a few times, and it seems to work.
2018-11-19, The November update came late
This generic text does not offer much info, just blah blah.
Much the same as the October function wise, Re-enabled the disabled “Samsung Theme”.
BUT I had some trouble getting it to FAST charge with a QualComm 2.0 charger afterwards. Even after multiple plugs and unplug in vain. I finally transferred some images trough MTP (with this open source incremental backup helper tool) for this post, and after that attaching to the charger worked. Could be coincidental, but keep an eye out, there might be an issue here….
2018-10-21, The October update came late
This generic text does not offer much info, just blah blah.
For a little more details on the update see the official link, and October seems to be security only.
Peeking a bit with 3C Toolbox I see in the /system/apk folder that all files has got a new time stamp here.
But luckily this does NOT mean that all the junk I had uninstalled and disabled were revived.
A single one, the “Samsung Themes” had been reenabled though 👿 🙄 , But could fairly easily be disabled again.
adb shell pm disable-user com.samsung.android.themestore
adb shell am force-stop com.samsung.android.themestore
(And yes a disable does NOT stop the app due to some crazy Android decision) 
ADD
After a short time of usage (less than 48h) I have a feeling that the idle consumption has gotten worse. It was clearly worse the first night. I HOPE it is just a matter of caching most likely being flushed by the update. But will keep a sharp eye on it the next few nights…
ADD II
If any consumption change it is very slight, and most likely within the accuracy of measurements.