For me the most vital app is the Messaging app for handling SMS/MMS. There is a new version, but ALL the basic flaws are still there (see this) and new have been added, along with new features.
ADD: There are bug fix versions too, see below.
Install
During install of Ios 9, almost all settings are preserved from 8.4.1 and a big ThumbsUp for that:
They do ask several questions on whether you are sure you do not want to turn on various stuff – off course put in usual salesman-fashion.
Despite these questions they still force Imessaging on during install. You’ll need to manually turn it back off in Settings.
(I got flat rate SMS/MMS so of course I do not want to pay data-charges to send these through NSA first)
But this is a tiny bug, and only an initial issue of lack of respect for the users choices. But with the Ios you should be happy that you even get a choice…
They brag that the installation is much much leaner:
This claim should be taken with a good pinch of salt, as it is actually over twice as big. They just obscured over 1.5GB of the update, by putting new versions of four of their bloatware apps out as app-updates. Three the day before and one the day after.
But you still cant avoid their bloat, or uninstall it. They believe to know what apps you want… And even added two more in Ios 9
General stability and stamina
After over a weeks usage Ios 9/9.0.1 seems no less stable than Ios 8.4.1 and much more stable than Ios 8.0 when that came out.
The Stamina also seems at least as good at 8.4.1, perhaps better. With limited usage (1h screen on a day) it has no problems lasting 4-5 days on a full charge.
Here is the current state with 11% left
Note that the above usage pattern only shows the last 1 and 7 days, and not the actual charge-period, but it can be seen that (almost) all usage was “on screen” and not background.
(Adding up the last 7 days gives 6½ hours on screen, so about the same limited pattern, roughly 1h/day on screen)
I have NO idea what “Photos” are doing active in the background, but just one minute so a tiny issue.
When interpreting the statistics, be aware that when one app calls another, it is accounted on the calling app. This is not a bug, but a choice. It could easily be argued that either of the apps should be ‘blamed’. As an example, look at the “Group Text” above, registered for “7 min on screen” actually the app it self was open more like 7 seconds, but launches the build in Messaging app and uses it to both edit the template-based message, and to actually send it afterwards. In the Kill app list, it also displays screen shot from “Messaging”, but with a header of “Group text”. Again this is not wrong but can be quite confusing at first, as you might see two instances of “Messaging” in the Kill app list.
With very light usage the last day it was down at 1% after over 138h (5¾ days) of standby with 5h of usage.
Shortly after it made a shutdown with no warning or notice.
Despite supplying power, it could not immediately be turned back on, but it then started by it self after a couple of minutes, and when I checked was at 5% and charging.
There is a tiny tiny bug, that the text at the bottom telling that the device has been plugged since the full charge, did NOT occur when it was plugged after complete depletion, but only after I unplugged and plugged it when on. So in principle you could repeatedly let the phone drain completely and plug it in, charge less than fully and unplug, and end up displaying extreme (but false) stamina.
Messaging
They have added avatars to the left side of the overview. Whether this change is good or bad is a matter of personal taste. Personally I would like to be able to turn it off, as I see no point in wasting the limited screen space. Others might see it as less boring interface. To each his own
versus 
(Sorry I got no screen dump from the same in Ios 8.x, so the left one is a random dump from an Iphone 5 I found on the net, thus the apparently more condensed look on the right one, but that is due to the different screen resolutions not the version)
As usual with Ios, they offer almost no settings to turn things like this on/off. They like to decide what you want. Like the famous colour-options of the old Ford…
ADD Finally in 9.1 they offer an OPTION to let the user decide to turn this off or on
(BTW despite having “Character Count” on, This is still IGNORED unless you turn MMS off as well! This is not a new bug though, but yet another old bug they never bothered to fix. It could make sense to stop counting and somehow signal if the message exceeds the ten SMS limit, and thus must be sent as an MMS.)
ADD This seems to be fixed in 9.0.1 – though the display of the length is fine for short sms displaying e.g. 23/160 (or /70 if unicode chars are included). But if you keep on typing (or pasting), they do NOT correctly reflect the way multi-sms works, limiting the number of available characters in each base-sms you are charged by the carrier (unless you got flat rate of course). So when you see “799/160” you might think that count as 5 sms, but it is actually 6… Thus making the counter less useful. (It ought to change to /153 when the nominator gets above 160 – or /67 and 70 when unicode chars are needed)
When you press “Edit” in the overview, a new function “Read all” has been added at the bottom
I see no action clicking it.
When selecting one (or more) message(s), the text is changed to an inactive and greyed out “Read”
When seen in conjunction with this page it might send read-receipts, if so it should be interpreted as “Read” in “Mark as read” and not like “Read it out”
In the message editor they have added a new totally crazy bug/feature: When you press Enter on the physical keyboard you wont get a new line, but send the message!!!
At the least it is still possible to get a new line with Alt+Enter as a workaround – and no, there are -as usual- no settings that turns this annoying Auto-send off!!
Had it been the other way round, so e.g. Alt+Enter sent the message, it could have been a nice addition.
Search for the user
The privacy intruding data indexing capabilities for NSA is now offered to the user also, on a screen left of the primary home screen
And NO you can not turn that off either….
But you can turn off which of the indexed data to display.
The first option seems to be a classic ‘Most used apps’, for those that find it too complicated to keep the apps they actually use in handy positions on the main home-screen.
This function can make sense on a large screen with many icons though (Think large Ibads), but since the main home-screen on a Ip6- has a maximum of 24 icons, it seems utterly superfluous here – But at least it is possible to turn that off.
The name-part “Suggestions” could be a warning that they might replace the apps really used with their attempt for similar functionality. E.g rather than NavFree og Here to show mAps. ???
Battery (Usage) info.
They have moved the “Battery Usage” up two levels from under “General/Usage” in “Settings” to its own primary setting “Battery”. They have added a new option, so the user can choose to suppress background activities to get increased stamina. As people are used to from other brands, this function will automatically ask to be activated when the remaining battery gets below 20% and again 10%, you get an OK/Cancel dialogue. I do not know whether it kicks in automatically if you do not answer the dialogue (e.g. while you sleep). You have the option to set it always on, if that suits your usage pattern. (But if you want the device to e.g. check mails in the background you would not turn this on)
Updated:
There is a strange issue in the battery usage, where it can ‘suddenly’ claim that you have to use the device “for a few minutes” before it can display statistics. Even after over two days standby, and over an hour of usage it can still claim so…
and when solved 
I have not pinpointed the exact circumstances, but currently my theory is that this really is not a bug (as i initially thought), just a very inaccurate and confusing text !!
I now believe that the issue is related to (very) light usage, and that statistic is only shown when the display has been on for at least half an hour the last day. (I’m not 100% sure these are the exact numbers, but all tests so far seems to match this theory)
Note that the background usage does not matter, I had the ‘radio’ streaming over half an hour this morning, (It does count as “Usage” though)
So the text
“Battery information will be available after using Iphone for a few minutes“
Could have been replaced (and still kept short) with something more accurate like:
“Battery usage by app will only be displayed when screen has been on for at least ½h the last day“
The issue seem to disappear once the screen on usage for the last day gets over the threshold. I assume (But am not sure) you need to also exit the “Battery” setting and re-enter it, to have the statistics displayed. (see a bit below on lag of live update)
This is NOT a new issue added in Ios 9, I saw it once shortly before upgrade 2015-09-15 on Ios 8.4.1 as well (see the old app title with “Usage” on top)
Where it had disappeared 2½ hour later.
Googling a bit, shows report of the same issue back in September 2014 on early Ios 8
ADD 2015-02-19
Also see the rather long dialogue with below, It seems that it not ONLY a lower limit on the usage the last day, but ALSO a lower limit on the usage the last week. And It MIGHT be needed to do a reset to bring it back – He has done a lot of testing, but we have not reached a clear conclusion (yet).
But is seems that the combination of ½h the last day, 2h the last week and a reset (hold both buttons for some five seconds), followed by a full charge is enough to get the info back – less might be needed…
Note the delay-issue below, so it might not be immediately even after you do the above. Also remember that a full charge might be needed after a reset to get any info at all.
A tiny bug on the update in Battery, can be seen in these two screen dumps:
Here the left image must lack update, as the usage the last 24h of course can not grow with 17 minutes in 2 minutes…
The bug seems to be that though the “Usage” and “Standby” fields are updated live, the statistics are not, you have to explicitly click “< Settings” (or kill the app) and re-enter “Battery”. But even doing that does not always fix it? There might be some delay of some sort involved?
ADD 2016-02-20
Inspired by the conversation with below, I tried to do some more tests, with a lot of screen dumps. I omitted the intermediate identical ones, below is a collage
I started by a full charge after a reset. I then watched some random TV for a few minutes to get some activity in. And that worked well. About an hour later I played Sudoko for about ten minutes. and then followed the Battery Info carefully to see when it would appear on the list, note that the usage for settings grows in jumps, and not just 1 min per minute. It took at the least 11 minutes from I stopped playing (or 20 min from start) to it appeared at 01:51. Note that in the mean time the usage for setting (that includes Battery Info, steadily grows, so info ARE being updated). But when you compare to the previous dump (within the same minute) in the third row, there are HUGE differences in the percentages?!?!?!? For the same number of minutes recorded on two activities, one percentages goes significantly UP (2% to 6%), and another DOWN (88% to 74%) – that does not make sense…
The phone was then idle until the next dump at 11:15, and here the percentages are again hugely different (note again the 3min step in the setting usage). Again one percentages goes UP (7% to 9%), and another further DOWN (74% to 62%), without any change in the minutes…
Note that the Spark usage -correctly- has aged out as now being to small an activity the last 24h to be included.
(Siti is there because the damn thing tends to launch when I try to take a screen dump…)
So the conclusion is that the Battery Info should be taken with a HUGE ‘pinch of salt’, unless it has displayed similar info steadily for about half an hour with low variations…
Add 2016-02-21
The next night I let it run out of the statistics (getting below the approximately ½h) and then used Battery Info and screen dumps a little on and off until it came back:
Note that both Backup and Siti has no SOT displayed, so this must indicate, that the limit for being included is at the least 1% of the battery consumption. There are no limit on the SOT as I’ve thought.
ADD: I noticed that a reasonable rule of thumb for the battery consumption under good network coverage is ROUGHLY 1% for 3h standby OR 10min screen on usage. (Of course it worse if you do something intense as navigation with satellite background images).
So this means it will last almost a fortnight at pure standby, with good 4G coverage – that is quite satisfying. 🙂
As with so many things you notice when they does not work, not when they do. But this is certainly better than it was when I got it with 8.0 – so they DO improve stuff…
PS
Given the rather limited number of devices supported, they COULD have taken the effort to adjust the text shown during update to the device I’m on:
Rather than telling me what good it does for larger versions of the Ibad…
PPS 20150924
A minor (35MB) bug fix release Ios 9.0.1 is already out…
It downloads quite quickly, but takes quite a long time to install for some reason.
Only the distorted frames in Photos have affected me though (once), and that was such a tiny bug I did not even bother posting it here.
A new tiny bug in 9.0.1 seems to be that “Update All” in App Store no longer always works (Updating each by “Update” manually works though)
Just noticed that they seems to have fixed the char-count bug too, as mentioned earlier.
PPPS 20151001
Now a 62Mb 9.0.2 as well.
The only of these bugs I have seen was the interrupted manual Icloud backup that aborted the backup when the progress bar was at about 95%. A retry did not take as long, so most got uploaded anyway.
As with 9.0.1 a quick download, but surprisingly slow install. (Not that is matters, just surprising)
PPPPS 20151021
Now a 246MB 9.1, bugfix that among other things after over a month fixed the lacking option for the contact-photos in Messaging.
PPPPPS 20151208
Now a 264MB 9.2, bugfix that offers a series of what for me (at first glance at least) seems uninteresting tweeks. (Hopefully just a few useful bugfixes too). Oh there is a fix on the hanging Icloud bAckup. Nice, but hardly a high priority bug….
Tweeking a lot of stuff I never use, and leave their attempt at fundamental (smart)phone functionality Messaging as flawed as usual.
Oh one good thing, in contrast to the previous bugfixes this update does not seem to mess with as many settings. 🙂 It is hard to find things to praise, so better to remember it when there are – no matter how small.
PPPPPPS 20160107
Since version 9.0 I have experienced spontaneous double-letters when typing on my BT-keyboard, and I thought it was because it was worn down (don’t expect much for £10). Today I tried two completely different types of detached keyboards I just bought, and found the same issue. I then tried two other specimens of my usual keyboard (yes I bought several), and they ALL have the same behaviour. I did NOT experience that on 8.x, so it is a new 9.x issue.
There is a well known issue also (just google) where keys are repeating as if you held the key down. That occurs less frequent, and does not seem to be related to the Ios version.
Since language selection is possible on the phone, and in some layouts some keys creates accents, I assume the keyboard send the native make and break codes, and let the device do the decoding. IF so, a break not received, could explain the multiple repetition, and the double-strokes could be real from the keyboard, but some filter removing very close repeats could have been removed or narrowed – but this is just guessing of course.
PPPP…S 20160321
A version 2.3 (300MB) now offered. primarily bugfixes , plus some functions for newer hardware.
a few interesting ones – in the order they appear on their bug-list.
- Fixes an issue that could cause the Messages input field to disappear behind the Shortcut Bar when connected to a hardware keyboard
- Fixes issues that could prevent Icloud bAckup from completing
- Fixes an issues where an inaccurate battery could be displayed
- Adresses an issues that could prevent the phone interface while receiving a call
Either their backup system is overloaded – or the incremental backup has been messed up…. Taking a new backup just a few seconds after a backup is completed, takes about 15 minutes(!)
There seems to be one or more extra tabs in “Battery Info”, Note the “Last Hour” / “Last ## Hours” header.
When you press Enter you wont get a new line, but send the message!!! That problem I have on my Nexus 4 aswell (at least when using default keyboard and messaging app. however I didn’t look out for alternatives) 🙁 I have to press shift + enter for new line. Although in my case new line is combined with emoticons keyboard button, not with Send. So it’s less.. disastruous in terms of consequences. It took me a while to figure out how to add a new line, though. Search [is] on a screen left of the primary home screen So they reverted back to iOS6 days 🙂 Nice. I also turn those off, but they give you no option to completely get rid of that screen. Search for installed apps is kind of pointless as I can reach to them much faster since I know where I have placed them. Yeah they could have used justified alignment. Google does that too though, and they also ended up with http on one side and www on the other as they also put a link in the update screen. Would have much prefered a new line and let the link on its… Read more »
Just found out that the Enter ‘bug/feature’ is limited to the real keyboard, not the virtual ones. So most people won’t be affected.
They also remapped Ctrl+Space that changed keyboard layout, so that you can no longer select layout from the hardware keyboard.
Hey, I think you really got it right about the battery information issue. I have a new iPhone 5s for about a month and this issue about not showing me the apps usage and only see the text “battery information will be available after using iphone for a few minutes” was driving me nutts, since I tend to check my battery stats and all of a sudden they are all gone, it happened to me like 3 or 4 times over the last month. I initially though it was a bug so I performed a hard reset, full charge and the next day I saw them again (coincidence, it seems). Over the last 36hs I really gave little screen on-time use to the phone, so by the afternoon of yesterday the issue came back. When I got home I performed a hard reset, full charge and today I was at 95% and still didn’t see the apps usage. Then I saw your article, and start messing around with the screen, now they came back. Counting the SOT it gives me 25 minutes. So I guess iPhone needs at least 25/30 minutes of screen on-time to show stastitcs. That’s why it… Read more »
Nice to get the pattern confirmed by others 🙂
I really believe this strictly is not a bug, all they ought to do was to adjust the explanatory text.
e.g.
“Battery usage by app will only be displayed when screen has been on for at least ½h the last day“
It does make sense to suppress the info on very light usage though, as the percentages could otherwise be way off, due to the accuracy of measurements.
Please help spread the explanation where ever you have seen others confused by the ‘inaccurate’ text. 🙂
…..I hate Ios so much that I’m likely to burst out acid remarks if I post it… *LOL*
Yeah, sure, I have bookmarked your article and will be spreading it out wherever I see other iPhone users with this issue 😉
Thanks 🙂
I have a GUESS that the reason the SOT does not add up to the same, is that there is a ‘trifles’ limit for display (but not for the sum).
As far as I can see any apps using less than 1%
or less than 1min on screenare omitted from the list.Just try to start and ‘immediately’ kill any app not currently on the usage-list, and you will see that it is not included. It could be interesting to do some tests with a background app doing some work over a 24h period with NO screen-interaction, to see if/how/when it appears on the list…
I was wrong on the 1 minute as minimum for SOT, the limit seems to be be the 1% only. See the added notes with examples with blank SOT.
I did it already in the apple community forums, lol
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7456538
…Just tried to play around with a program and killing it several times (Lirum Info Lite), and it only appeared in the list after quite some usage, jumping in with 12min screen on, and 5%.
This confirms my suspicion on some sort of delay between the actual usage and what we see displayed.
I have not been able to exactly pinpoint this delay, as I simply do not understand how the collecting and refresh mechanism works (even when killing settings and re-entering the battery info)
It is NOT so simple that the information is X minutes old. But there seems to be some sort of delay between when an entry surpasses the 1%
and 1minlimit, and when it is actually included on the list. It seems to be in the order of 10-15 minutes.Nice research!
Hey! It seems using it for 25/30 minutes not “always” will fix the issue. Look a this situation, on Sunday I left the phone on my house while I was out the entire day, so I must have given a SOT time of less than 5 minutes. Yesterday, at around mid day, the issue of not seeing app battery stats came back. It was normal, since I barely gave it 5 minutes or less of SOT the last 24hs. Well, I was at work so I couldn’t really play around with the phone, so I waited for the night to do it. I must have been like 40/45 minutes playing around with the screen, chatting and doing other stuff, but the apps power statistics still didn’t show up. Weird. I left it charing entire night and this morning I’m already at 97%, with a already a bit of SOT (maybe 5/10 minutes) and still nothing. Note I haven’t been giving it a intense use of SOT for the last entire week, in fact this happened already to me 5 days ago. So the margin of the “25/30” minutes for each 24hs was very thin. Maybe that has something to do… Read more »
Interesting observation!
One GUESS could be that you not only need ½h the last 24h, but perhaps also say 7x½h the last 7x24h? That could make some sense in relation to the “Last 7 Days” statistics?
I do not think that it is something fixable as such, if it (as I guess) is an accuracy issue. But they should change the text, as the “after using Iphone for a few minutes“ is clearly ‘inaccurate’ to put it mildly.
They could put another fuzzy text like “You need to use the phone for a longer time to display the battery information”
Yeah, at least they should start by changing the text. Anyway, i think there aren’t many iPhone users that really take a look at his battery stats this often, so I guess that’s why Apple is putting this null effort in this “thing”.
About the theory of giving it SOT not only for the last 24hs, but also for the last 7×24, yeah. I thought that too. Anyways, It would be good if they change the entire system of collecting info.
Android for example start collecting info as soon as you unplug it from the charger. I don’t see why Apple cannot change their system (that needs SOT) to another.
I will keep you posted, if nothing happens I will reboot it tonight and let’s see if tomorrow they show up again.
Yes please do.
It is very complex to measure these things with reasonable accuracy. So my GUESS is that they want to (try to) be sure not to display wrong info, and thus require a minimum usage. It would be smarter if they just omitted the percentages until the limit was reached, as the number of minutes SOT is objective easily obtained info. This way they could always display something.
Remember it is NOT since last charge they display the usage statistics (unlike android), but in calendar time. Whether this is good or bad is a matter of opinion, I do not think there is a ‘correct’ way to do this.
Yeah, I understand the point. But thing is, since yesterday night to this right moment, I must have used aroun 55 minutes of SOT. And still nothing. Something tells me a reboot ir required.
I remember that when I wrote you 5 days ago abou this same issue, I also restarted the phone the last night, before I played with it a bit more and then finally they appeared the next day, then I wrote you for the first time.
So, if the restart fix the issue by tomorrow, then there is, in fact, an issue, that when the battery stats cannot be collected in the right way (by having the correct amount of SOT), then the system get somewhat screwed and a restart is needed. Let’s see. I will keep you posted.
Thing is, don’t know if I should perform a normal reset (turn off, turn on) or a hard reset (home and power for 10 seconds). I made a hard reset 5 days ago. I will try with a normal reset this time I guess. I don’t like the idea of hard resetting the phone so often.
Regards.
That might well be, yes.
Remember to go to the battery info immediately before the boot, end immediately after, to limit the risk of the (pretty unlikely) event, that it would have displayed it at that time also without the boot.
Before a boot, you could also try something lighter: Put it in Airplane mode and back – that might initialise some stuff – though rather unlikely to affect the usage stat..
Yeah, I will check before and after. Even tho I highly doubt the stats will show just after the reboot. If the reboot takes effects, they will eventually start appearing tomorrow morning after some SOT. That’s my guess according to my experience in this.
Will you let you know!
Well,
Bad news. Yesterday night I performed a normal reset (turning it off, then on), left it charging whole night… so far its at 91%, I must have give it like 25/30 of SOT (plus all the SOT i gave it yesterday inside the 24hs lapse) and still nothing.
I’m starting to guess that everytime this get screwed by now giving the phone enough time, a hard reset must be done. So again, this night I will perform a hard reset, left it charging and let’s see tomorrow. It should start working again.
As you can see, there is a “bug” indeed in here. If you search you will find some topics in forums with this issue and despite nobody noticed that using it more ofter will cause this to not happen again, the people that already were in trouble said that a hard reboot fixed it.
In fact, I made a hard reboot the night before I talked to you in the first place 6 days ago. In which i had to give it some SOT time and they finally appeared (but the phone have had a hard reboot 10 hours before).
Will let you know tomorrow!
Thanks for the info, So it is even more complex than what I thought.
There is also the delay-issue. It would be really nice to know how it was supposed to be working, then it would be easier to understand the whole mess *LOL*
Just a thought. Could it be that it have a different double requirement of some sort? something like:
a) ½h the last 24 hours
b) X minutes of usages each of the last 7 days, with some specific 0 < X < 30
That would be pretty hard to spot on lean usage, when the X is not known.
You COULD find out if you, instead of a hard reset, made sure you use it with at least 30 min SOT for a week, and see if the battery info ‘magically’ gets available.
PS If you do not do it already, remember to KILL the Settings ‘app’ between each time you check, to not mix the tests with any possible refresh-bug….
Yeah, I always close all apps, to that purpose, hehe.
Btw, I decided to wait another day before making a hard reset. Because today its 7 days since I first wrote you, so today the 7-days stastics are supposed to ‘reset’, I think in about 1 or 2 hours… so far I’m at 96% this morning, about 5 or 10 minutes of SOT and still nothing.
I will give more SOT time over the day to see if it shows up. If not, I will make a hard reset this night. Honestly I don’t see it coming magically. But let’s wait how it behaves today.
I will keep you posted!
Well,
Still bad news. I have hard reset the phone last night, this morning I’m at 95% already, must have given about 10 minutes of SOT and still nothing.
I’m starting to think the hard reset doensn’t solve anything, and it will eventually appear magically when the period of usage is the correct for 7 days or so. Its evident that the fact that I have been using the phone so little 7 days ago (and then again 5 days ago) screwed all the stastics in my iOS and needs to generate them all again, so… hopefully they will show up one of these days if I keep using the phone regulary and giving it 25/30 minutes of SOT every day.
I will keep you posted.
Thanks for the info.
Will be interesting to see if a certain amount per day does the trick.
It could either be a total amount for all seven days and/or a minimum amount per day.
Just replied again, take a look. There’s been news.
Well, they finally showed up. And again, the stastics for the last 24hs count exactly 25 minutes of SOT.
So, yeah, the hard reset does fix the issue when the stastics gets screwed by not using a proper SOT time. In fact, if I go to the last 7 days stastics, I have 2hs+ of SOT, which is VERY little.
Basically, when the stasts got screwed by not using the proper SOT time each day, a hard reset and then giving the phone 25 minutes of proper SOT time will eventually fix the issue.
I hope this gets fixed in 9.3 (not likely, tho). Idon’t like the idea of hard resetting the phone everytime I get in this situation.
Anyway, I heard that hard resetting the phone doesn’t hurt the iOS or anything, its just like a clear restart of the phone. I heard many users does it once a week just to have their phones refreshed, as a normal reboot (turn off-turn on) seems to not completely ‘refresh’ the phone.
Interesting!
Could you try to add up the weeks SOT a little more accurate? Maybe that could help deduce a limit.
Maybe the limit is 25minutes for the last day, and 20 minutes per day, that is 2h for the six day, or 2:25 for the seven.
Apple only knows if it is a total for the six day, or must be distributed by some rule…
Remember that in addition to what you see are the contributions of all the small things that are
less than 1minute andless than 1%.It would not sound TOO weird if someone made a limit like ½h the last day, and 2h total for the rest of the last week.
ADD (Well it is weird that there IS a rather high limit, but IF they require a limit, these numbers does not sound unlikely. I mean these are sort of ’round’ numbers, not like say 01:47:22.43215)
Just took a look, it was exactly 2 hours of SOT of the last 7 days. So as you can see, I gave it way little SOT time over the last 7 days, thats why they all got screwed.
What really annoys me is the need of performing a hard reset every time the stastics get screwed. Do you know if hard resetting the phone once a week more or less can hurt the phone ???
Interesting that is is exactly 2h. I can not imaging that a hard reset will hurt anything hardware-wise. The only nuisance of a factory reset is to make sure the backup is fresh, and is the waste of time by the sync both ways. (Of course in principle there is a limited numbers of writes to the ROM, as there is with a SSD, but even weekly would hardly pose a problem within the expected lifetime of the device of a few years) I’m in doubt if the reset is even needed, or it is the SOT only. It would be nice if we knew someone with a Iphone not in use -say with a broken screen, but still usable- and then a) Initially set General/Auto-Lock to Never, and set it to Aeroplane mode. (And lock) Charge it fully. b) Leave it on totally idle for a week, to make sure there are no known activity. c) For 7 days Unlock the phone for for slightly over 20 minutes (say 21) each day, Lock, wait at the least 15 minutes (the delay bug) and check that the battery info is still blank (and lock again) c) The last day unlocked… Read more »
By hard resetting I was not meaning factory reset! I was meaning pressing and holding the power and home button for 10 seconds until the apple logo appears and phone reboots. I never had to do any factory reset to fix this.
A soft reboot is a normal turn off- turn on the phone by holding the power button, slide the bar, and then turning it on.
I heard many users does it because the reboot is “cleaner” doing it by resetting it with the power+home button, than turning it off and then on. But I don’t know if it can cause any damage to the iOS. I don’t think so, anyways.
Cus at this pace, I can imagine myself doing it once a week or so, lol
Oh!, I consider that a (soft) reset I think that is completely harmless, and that you can do that as often as you want. It is the closest we can get a real power off and on, without actually restoring anything, And once a week is likely a good habit.
I would try to avoid doing it while it is doing something system-wise though. Say while something in the sTore is updating, or Icloud is taking a backup.
Think like an old PC, One should avoid to pull the plug while it is active.
So to be safe, run the sTore and Icloud before, so you are sure it’s not doing pending stuff while you reset it.
PS I added a note in the main-text, pointing to this long dialogue *LOL*
Yeah, so far the 4-5 times that I did it, it was with all apps closed and not performing anything. Since there will be some days I won’t use the phone that much to reach 25/30 minutes of SOT, I guess I might be soft (or hard, there are confusion with the terms) resetting the phone once every 5-7 days if I want to keep my battery stastics right there.
I read many people does it once a week or so to keep their iPhones fresh from hung closed apps, bugs, etc. While I read other users saying (with no proof) that using that method of reboot might damage the OS over the time and that a normal turn off, turn on will do the same ‘refreshing’ and ‘bug freeing’ effect (Which is not true, because it won’t fix this battery stastics issue, for example).
Anyways, I’m glad I helped out in your article, lol. I will try to give it some SOT time to the phone in a constant basis, but if not, well, a soft reset and we are back in business again.
I will come back to you if something new or revealing comes up.
Cheers!
Yes, there is a bit of confusion on the terms.
Originally a “hard reset” were either a momentary power removal, or a dedicated reset pin on the system, and a “soft reset” was a restart. But as there are no way to really do a hardware-reset, it is a matter of how much the firmware initiated reset actually does.
And “restarts” have become ‘smarter’ with more and more state-info stored from before the restart, to speed up things. (Hibernate and restore is the extreme)
So it is all a bit fuzzy unless one knows what the specific system does.
What can be ‘lost’ by a reset is if a system tries to collect user data and adapt to usage patterns. Whether this is an interesting feature or just a creepy case of big brother, is a matter of opinion more than an objective right or wrong. I can hardly think of any crooks (outside the mob) than aPple I would distrust more handling personal data… An utterly despicable company IMHO.
(There are no guarantee that these are lost by a reset though. They could have been stored in non-volatile memory)
I tried to do a reset followed by a full charge.
After that the statistics were gone. (As we would expect)
BUT after using it for a little over half an hour (and waiting a bit) I got some statistics:
1) The “Last 24 hours” shows the usage SINCE RESET ONLY – which is thus strictly speaking incorrect, so these numbers must have been wiped.so that is NOT wiped…2) The “Last 7 days” shows what seems to be the CORRECT usage for the last week,
ADD:
I then did a NEW reset, and the statistics were still there (And the battery is at 97% and charging, and yet it displays 0 minutes of usage and stand by at the bottom, so that is a NEW [though very tiny] error of sort, maybe because the discharge is so close to 100%….)
A more careful look at the numbers showed it did include something before the first reset
Note that I added a collage for the Battery Info after the Reset. Note the weird issues…*LOL*
Hi again. Note that the new 9.3 has changed some stuff on the battery info. According to the list they fixed a bug, and there is at the least one new tab “Last Hour” (See above)
Hi!
Yeah, I updated to 9.3 just two hours ago and at the beggining I didn’t have the battery stats, since it seems it reset everything. After using it they started to show and yeah, there was the “last one hour” tab only.
Now I just checked and it says “last two hours”… so I assume after updating all the battery stats were completely reset, so the phone starts to accumulate battery info in an hourly way.
I don’t think this is new, it will continue like this until it hits 24hs, then, it will show “last 24hs/last 2 days” and so on until it hits 7 days.
So far I love the update. It behaves really fluid and I can notice an improvement in terms of speed in my 5s. I hope I don’t find any annoying bug within the next days.
Abou the battery bug they fixed, yeah, it could be the thing we discussed a few weeks ago. Let’s see!
Regards!
No good for me…
it shows only 24 hours But not days…
i updated 9.3 two days ago.
Am i the only one ???
When you say “Two days ago” do you mean roughly, or OVER 48 hours?
It works for me. I currently got TWO tabs. “Last 24 hours” and “Last 2 days”, I assume the later will grow to 7
Even a hard reset (that clears the statistics of times since charge) does NOT clear the statistics of usage.- But the usage statistics were cleared at the update.
After 72 hours it displays “Last 3 days” as expected :
-i mean OVER 48 hrs.
-i’ve only one tab “Last 24 hours” (i do not have the tab “Last X days” )
-rest / hard reset did not fix it , still got one tab “Last 24 hours”
Ah OK, That COULD be a new bug they have introduced… ;(
Just to be sure, have you by any chance used it very lightly these last days? Less than around half an hour screen time a day? See the discussion here on when they display/hide the info. It COULD be that what you see (or rather do not see) is not really a bug but that the info is deliberately hidden.
(If not, then no, I haven’t got any good idea to fix it. Of course you can always try to backup and do a full factory reset – but that seems a lot of work&risk of lost stuff for a minor issue)
Weird, my iPhone shows “last 24hs/last 2 days”. Just as I expected. It could be a bug what lavi is facing.
Besides that, I still feels 9.3 runs a bit smoother than 9.2.x in my 5s. I do notice some bit of lag in certain animations within a few seconds of usage just after a reboot, which happened also in previous versions. But after that, I think it runs smoother. Which is a good thing.
Which is not that good thing is the battery life, I do notice a bit of a decrease in battery life since 9.3. Not that noticiable, but is still there. I will see over the next days how it keeps going, but so far I noticed it drains just a bit faster.
On the contrary, the stand by consumption do seem to have improved. What a paradox.
yes, i think i used it Less than half an hour screen time a day.
BUT still almost 4 days passed….
i’ll wait for another day or two and report back.
Thanks!
p.s iphone 6S
OK, try to use it with the screen on at least half an hour a day, to rule out that this is the reason.
yap i guess you were right!
i’m happy to say all is shown fine now
last 24hs/last 2 days
Great that things are working 🙂
At first is seems a strange idea with a trifles limit, but it really boils down to System and Radio usage not being included, so a light usage could give a very distorted image. (Of course the GOOD solution would be to include the missing parts, rather that trying to lie about it being there)
Imaging the scenario where you forgot the phone at home when you went away for say a weekend., and the only thing that happened was a single sms. Then they should claim 100% used by messaging, which would be pretty inaccurate. As off course the real usage was standby and not the least radio contacts with the towers.
Today I woke up and my 5s was notifiying me it had iOS 9.3 (again) ready for installation. Funny thing was, this is 1.4GB and the previous 9.3 was less than 300MB. I obviously ignored it, and deleted it from “Storage and Icloud” to free up space. But I still see that “1” grey icon in the General setting.
Then I realized that Apple launched iOS 9.3 (with different build number) all over again for ‘older phones’ just to fix the activation issue some older phones/tables had when 9.3 was out last week.
Now, I didn’t have any issues with my 5s and 9.3. So I have 2 options, either I update it again (which would be useless in my case) or just wait for 9.3.1 which I assume it will be released within the next few days.
Thing is, I’m afraid that maybe I don’t get the 9.3.1 update if I don’t remove this 9.3 re-release update out of my “update queue”.
What do you think I should do ? Will I receive 9.3.1 despite having this 9.3 update at my queue for downloading ?
I have no idea. But keep an eye out for when the 9.3.1 is released, and then see if you get notified on it.
You might try to dig into what the new 9.3 actually has. It MIGHT include more important tweeks for ‘older’ devices than just the activation issue???
I see that several have complained about it using the battery faster, they MIGHT have addressed that issue?
I had a Chat to an Apple support representative, and he told me that the re-release of 9.3 was rolled out to ALL older devices (5s being the newest of them) because of the activation issue that somee older devices faced when the first 9.3 came out. Its like they didn’t have a chance to distinguish if you activated it right or not, so the guy told me that they just rolled out to all “old” models just in case. He told me that I shouldn’t re-install it If I didn’t suffer any issue, and that I should wait a few days until 9.3.1 comes out and that update should replace this 9.3 re-release that is still in my pending update “list”. So I guess I will just ignore it and wait for 9.3.1. As for the battery, after several days of use with 9.3, I guess it behaves just the same as 9.2.1, no improvements, no worsen. What really took my attention was the size of the 9.3 re-release. While it was less than 300MB before, this one is 1.4GB! Its like the released the whole iOS. It might be related to the fact the the people who suffered… Read more »
Yes that sounds as a likely explanation.
If anything the battery has been better on my 6- with 9.3
90h standby, and almost 3h ‘usage’ for half the battery is quite satisfying…
(Actually this falls nicely in line with the rough estimate of 3h standby or 10min usage per 1%-point battery capacity)
(9.3.1 is out – a tiny update on 9.3)
Hi guys,
Last week i replaced my iPhone 6 battery since i feel the original battery came with the iPhone i purchased 2 years ago is getting really weak.
However, after i use almost a week now, i don’t feel much different with the battery life. is iOS 9.3.3 really draws so much power? or i got a bad battery quality?
Also, i’ve tried to check battery usage information, no matter what i do, iPhone is not showing battery usage data. I followed all of the suggestions above (soft reset, turn on/off, leaving screen on 40 minutes non stop by setting it never sleep) still nothing
iPhone still won’t show me battery usage data. Please help.. thank you
Hi guys,
Last week i replaced my iPhone 6 battery since i feel the original battery came with the iPhone i purchased 2 years ago is getting really weak.
However, after i use almost a week now, i don’t feel much different with the battery life. is iOS 9.3.3 really draws so much power? or i got a bad battery quality?
Also, i’ve tried to check battery usage information, no matter what i do, iPhone is not showing battery usage data. I followed all of the suggestions above (soft reset, turn on/off, leaving screen on 40 minutes non stop by setting it never sleep) still nothing
I’ve also did 2 full battery cycles 100% –> 0% iphone turned off by itself and then plug into charger until 100%
iPhone still won’t show me battery usage data. what’s more weird that using “Battery Life” app, it shows my battery cycle = 1
Please help.. thank you.
Well I have bought a Blackberry Priv, to get away from Ios, so even though I have upgraded the Ip6 to 9.3.3 I have not got any real experience with 9.3.3. So only experience up to 9.3.2, and here I saw no heavy battery drains from the OS. So if you only experienced it after upgrade to 9.3.3, I’m not the right one to ask. If I do not recall wrong, it IS possible to downgrade to the previous version for a limited time after upgrade, so if 9.3.3 only, that might be worth a try, and then wait for the 9.3.4 or 10. ADD: see e.g. http://fieldguide.gizmodo.com/how-to-downgrade-ios-9-3-to-an-older-version-1767689167 If the error was there before 9.3.3 too, you could try to back up the phone and do a factory reset, as it would sound like the OS has f…ed up it self on your phone. (Just like old versions of windows that needed to be reinstalled from time to time, when it had messed up things – Some years ago I had a windows 6.1 phone, that needed a factory reset and total reinstall about every fortnight, so I made a script to do so – pretty annoying though) There is… Read more »