Phablet with tiny keys: Blackberry Priv.
At first this looks like what I have been waiting for, for about five years (see this), and I’m really tempted to just buy one to try it out.
There are two major drawbacks though
- The device is so huge, that one hand operation will be somewhere between hard and completely out of the question, unless you got huge hands.
- The keys are so tiny (6.9×6.0mm) that they are 26% less than the small keys of my landscape slider for the Ip6- (8.8×6.4mm) and 20% less than the grid of my ancient Xperia Pro (8.2×6.3mm)
On the other hand I really want to get rid of the HORRIBLE Ios experience of my Ip6- (see several other posts here). And with Blackberry’s take on Android, I might well get a less insecure platform than the stock Android. Especially when the Marshmallow update arrives, as Marshmallow is said to allow more sensible control of what each app is allowed to access.
The QHD resolution seems a bit of overkill to me for a 67x119mm display (540dpi). FHD (405dpi) would have been just fine for me. But that is just me being old, with poor vision, I’m sure younger people will love it.
So I’m really in doubt… And eagerly awaits more reviews.
One I’ve seen already says that the screen part feels very thin and the sliding flimsy. I hope that is an exaggeration.
That it is launched with a price tag almost as shameless as the Iphones, does not count in it’s favour either, though that is the least of the issues.
UPDATE 20151209: There is a review out from GsmArena, And it is certainly a mixed affair, not all roses…
http://www.gsmarena.com/blackberry_priv-review-1350p10.php
Quite a few things they did not get just right at their first attempt, it seems. I would love to get my hands on one my self before I decide though – but it is not officially for sale in Denmark (yet).
UPDATE 20160715: I actually ended up buying one for a more reasonable $300, see this
Wishful thinking
Had it only been a landscape slider, and thus with larger keys, I think I would have pre-ordered it immediately, despite the poor one hand operability.
And had it been shrunken by 15% to phone size, about 65mm wide with a 4.6″ FHD (473dpi) display and a landscape slider, it would have been near perfection.
Landscape/portrait and one hand operability
There is a build in conflict between portrait QWERTY (hardware or virtual) and one hand operability. On one hand you need hands large enough to reach the far side of the device comfortably, without loosing a secure grip, on the other hand you needs fingers so small that they can operate tiny keys less than 1/11 of the device width fast but without too many flaws…
(and 1/11 is for just 10 keys plus bezels, and that is less than many national keyboards use. 11 letter-keys are common in many European countries, Standard PC keyboards are 14 keys wide)
Of course you won’t be able to operate the (virtual or physical) keyboard of an otherwise one hand operable device with one hand keeping a secure grip anyway, so as you need two hands for this, you might just as well go landscape, and have room for larger keys.
So the logic thing for a one hand operable device, is for the keyboard to be in landscape, offering roughly twice the width. (Larger on a physical slider than a virtual keyboard due to mouthpiece and speakers)
Unfortunately most developers of Apps and OS (both Android and Ios) are so lazy (or incompetent) that their UI (partly or completely) only works in portrait!!
I guess that is why people are giving up on one hand operability. And for two handed devices portrait keyboards works fine (if you buy a device huge enough for your fingers of course).
So from that perspective it DOES make sense for the PRIV to have the keyboard in portrait though (for users with fingers are small enough for the keys).
Even if someone made a landscape slider, it might become an even bigger problem to get landscape support in the future… I have fetched, tested and deleted a lot of apps without landscape support both for Ip6- and for Xperia Pro (before).
Repairability
I have just (2015-12-01) seen by this http://www.gsmarena.com/teardown_of_blackberry_priv_shows_screen_easily_replaceable-blog-15272.php that the Priv is quite a lot easier to repair than most other new phablets, so that was great news. ![]()
BB goes all in for android
Just saw the news 2016-01-08 that BB is going all in for Android in 2016. So at least that is good news for the support and updates of the Priv, as they are likely to be very dedicated in the beginning. And with the principally different and more strict security approach of Marshmallow this might prove a good match for BB.
![blackberry-priv-overview[1]](https://eskerahn.dk/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/blackberry-priv-overview1-597x1024.jpg)
They should have made it slide horizontally. And the keys are (look) too small. Even with thin fingers, larger keypads feel so comfortable. No only that but I can not imagine how would they fit two keyboard layouts on that (i.e both EN/RU text written on them, Nokia phones had this. I never had one, but I saw people typing quite fast on those, even though to me all those keys seemed too crowded. I was anti-qwerty on phones for this reason, until I was (more or less) forced to switch to touch phones).
Last phone that I tried with a physical qwerty was a N97 mini, which size-wise actually felt nice, though I wasn’t accustomed anymore of actually using some force when pressing a key.
Ah well, at least lately I started typing fast(-er than before) on touch keyboards. I think the vibration feedback helps a lot in this situation, because if I try to type on my iPhone now I’m a lot slower and make more typos (I keep every auto- correction feature disabled) compared to my Nexus.
I certainly would have preferred that too
But as I said in the section on landscape, this might be problematic too, due to lazy/incompetent programmers only implementing their UI in portrait…
Did you see the GSMArena review?
It does look like there are some things that are not exactly perfect, and make it appear quite a bit away from a flagship device.
The software is badly optimised too? I can understand the camera crashes and the lack of a player, these are Lollipop features (really, they took away the Gallery on my Nexus, although I could install the one from previous software versions, and the camera crashes seem to be fixed in 5.1, but I think such issues should not be accepted from large companies. 5.0 made the phone unusable with all sorts of restarts and pretty much a useless camera as it crashed every time after you took 2-3 pictures. and it crashed to the point that the phone would restart and the autofocus thingy would make a weird noise like it would hit something. I bet that after a while destroys something in the phone). The keyboard is, however, a bit too small and a bit more crammed with less key travel than most other BlackBerry phones. Well, so it looks. I wasn’t expecting too much comfort out of that. It’s got a mute button? That’s kind of neat. I find myself mashing the – button just to hear something else then + to bring the volume back. I guess pause works as well, but still, sometimes pause breaks a… Read more »
I’m still very much in doubt on this one. The question for me is if the relieve of getting rid of an Ios device is enough to counter that this device is really both too huge AND has even smaller keys. A month ago I was rather convinced I was going to buy it, now I think I will hold my horses to it is available in Denmark so I can physically get my hands on it before deciding. None of the firmware bugs mentioned in the review is really enough to throw me off, hardly worse that the fruit crap I got now… The Iphone is really driving my nuts – for one thing you never know when you are able to pick up a call. Sometimes it works at first swipe, but often ten won’t even do it. So I’m on the bring of explosion of anger when I finally am able to pick up, and sometimes scares the caller… BUT I have no other touch issues with it what so ever, so it is NOT a hardware defect in the phablet (or as aPple most likely would suggest: my fingers) – it is just yet another firmware… Read more »
The inability to answer to calls I have it on my iPhone too, the slider just doesn’t move, although I don’t remember it being present before iOS 7. Sometimes I just give up, hang the call with the power button then I call the person back.
Well, if you could get to use it in a store, that would be great. Otherwise the keyboard could turn out to be unusable in which case any other Android phone would do just the same job as this one.
Nice to know that I’m not the only one “answering the calls wrong”…
And yes exactly, it will be pointless if the keys turn out to be too small (as I suspect) even if the phablet is clearly too huge for one hand operation (for my hands)
I still got my Xperia Pro (Where I changed the display) and I have considered switching back, as the ‘only’ (important) problem it has is the small screen size and resolution, making it far from optimal for web-browsing.
As it is possible to get qwerty LANDSCAPE cases for Samsung S4 (And the larger older S3) – e.g. here , A S4 i9606 might certainly be a possibility that might prove just as good as the Priv for me.. YES it will be thick(er), BUT it will be closer to one hand operability AND it got removable battery as any phone/phablet OUGHT to!! …and given the age, is available for half the price…
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Or I might go in a different direction, and give up on the keyboard being attached to the phone – thought this would certainly limit the usability somewhat while walking… http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/331611008534 or http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/391331890318 or http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/361351292663
…I have just ordered this foldable backlit.keyboard and this compact one as well as this one with a few more keys
I will try to use it/them with my Ip6- for a while, And if the inconvenience of two devices proves to be tolerable, I’ll then try to find a decent device to use it with, though that is not easy even without a keyboard requirement – Something with FHD, not too wide, LTE (3,7 & 20 for Europe), no less than 2 preferably 3 Gb. Perhaps this one or perhaps this one
That for S4 is actually quite awesome. There should be available for newer Galaxies as well. Probably Samsung would be the only manufacturer for which you would not have trouble finding such an accessory. I doubt there’s something like that for Yota Phone 2 unfortunately.
Ah well for the last two, they would be for an unattached keyboard 🙂
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….For the s4, the awesomeness is limited by the quite thick total, due to the detachability. But with a bit of ingenuity, a few mm might be saved, by mounting the hinge system directly on the ‘case’, but it does not seem like there is much to be gained: http://www.agoramarket.it/img/sku0828616.jpg
PS I actually ended buying one for $300, see this